Table Of ContentA Man That Looks on Glass 
 
                                     
 
Derek Guiton
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A Man That Looks on Glass 
 
Standing up for God in the Religious Society of 
Friends (Quakers) 
 
                                     
 
Derek Guiton
 
 
                         
 
         
                      
A man that looks on glasse, 
                         On it may stay his eye; 
                Or if he pleaseth, through it passe, 
                        And then the heav’n espie. 
                                                      
                                                           George Herbert (1633)
Acknowledgements 
 
Thanks are due to Gerard Guiton for his many insights and 
suggestions in the drafting of this book, his constant moral support 
and his ability to put me in touch with relevant academic sources. 
Grateful  thanks  also  to  Rachel  and  David  Britton  for  their 
friendship, encouragement and stimulating conversation, and to 
Rachel particularly for allowing me to publish the full text of her 
talk to Colchester Friends, ‘God as Energy or God as Person’, as 
an Appendix. Thanks also to my readers, Margaret and David 
Heathfield, Edward Hoare, James Hogg, Roger Iredale and Noël 
Staples  for  their  perceptive  criticisms,  textual  corrections  and 
points of information. And, of course, a special thank you to my 
wife, Brenda, for her patience, companionship and good spirits 
throughout.  Needless  to  say,  any  errors  are  my  responsibility 
alone.
Contents 
                  Page 
               
  Introduction          i 
     
   1    Believing nothing in particular        1 
   2    Prophecy and change    16 
   3    Accommodation and discernment    33 
   4    The Quaker need of theology    41 
   5    The behavioural creed    59 
   6    Belief and Quaker non-credalism    67 
   7   Gently move – the search for a common         92 
       language                                                                                                         
   8   Non-realism or Real Presence?       102 
   9   Relativism – the denial of Truth  144 
  10   Non-theism — walking the faultline  163 
  11   Non-theism – disappearing into the secular    1  8  6        
  12   Theism – the sovereignty of Love  213 
   
Endpiece    255 
     
     
Appendix A   
Bryan Magee, Knowing, thinking and            261 
perceiving without Language 
 
  Appendix B  263 
Rachel Britton, God as Energy and God as   
Person
Introduction 
WHICHEVER WAY ONE looks at it, the Religious Society of 
Friends is in crisis. The main features of this crisis are growing 
secularisation, the emergence of incompatible belief systems and a 
readiness, in very many cases, to embrace ideology as a substitute 
for  faith.  Although  all  of  these  features  have  come  up  for 
discussion  at  various  times  in  The  Friend  and  other  Quaker 
journals there has been no attempt since Alastair Heron’s brave 
little book, Our Quaker Identity (1999), to address them as the 
single existential crisis that they represent. Quaker writing on this 
subject has tended towards a ‘wise reticence’— doubtless from 
fear of provoking conflict. The effect has been to leave the field 
open  to  one  side  in  this  debate  and  allow  the  impression  to 
develop that those who hold to the traditional Quaker faith have 
no answer to the arguments of secular rationalism.1 
Consider,  for  example,  the  2013  and  2014  Swarthmore 
Lectures. Both are excellent in their exposition of Quaker spiritual 
values. But in each case the authors discourage any engagement 
with  current  realities  by  appealing  to  Friends  to  abandon  the 
‘empire of the mind’ and plant a ‘garden of the heart’. ‘Heart-
knowledge’, it is suggested, encourages spiritual transformation, 
‘head-knowledge’  leads  to  rational  argument  which  will  only 
worsen the crisis by driving us further towards the secular. 
This book is written in the conviction that we need both 
kinds of knowledge. The Inward Light and the light of reason are 
complementary,  not  opposite.  We  have  nothing  to  fear  from 
                                                 
1 Here I should like to stress that I am referring mainly to Britain Yearly 
Meeting which follows the unprogrammed (silent) tradition of Quaker 
worship.  Other Yearly Meetings, particularly in the southern hemisphere, 
follow a tradition of programmed meetings with services organised by a 
pastor. Since these Yearly Meetings tend to be more committedly Christ-
centred, problems around secularisation are not usually an issue. 
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theological and philosophical debate if we are firmly rooted in our 
own God-centred and deeply inspiring mystical tradition. But we 
have a lot to fear from refusing to engage with those for whom 
reason is the only guide. There is nothing to be gained and much 
to lose by burying our heads in the sand. As the great Anglican 
theologian  Austin  Farrer  said,  “what  no-one  defends  is  soon 
abandoned”. 
Leading Friends have warned against this gradual and now 
burgeoning crisis almost from its beginnings in the 1950s but their 
warnings for the most part have gone unheeded. It is probably this 
that led Alastair Heron to address the problem head-on and in a 
form “as free as possible from ambiguity and equivocation”. What 
did he see as the problem? Essentially our inertia in the face of a 
threat that would put an end once and for all to something we hold 
to  be the most significant  and  central  focus of our lives, that 
precious experiment in practical mysticism that began in earnest 
on Firbank Fell in the summer of 1652. Heron’s call to Friends 
was to overcome this inertia and put into action a programme of 
Society-wide spiritual renewal, and (crucially) not to let up until 
the  drift  from  Religious  Society  to  friendly  society  had  been 
decisively reversed. For, as he pointed out, “if nothing effective is 
initiated soon, in thirty years’ time the membership of the Society 
will  need  to  be  described  by  terms  such  as  ethical,  humanist, 
secular. By then only a minority will affirm personal experience of 
the living power of the Spirit of God in their daily lives”. 
We are now half-way through Heron’s thirty-year term and 
it looks as if that disquieting prognosis is turning out to be grimly 
accurate.  According  to  the  British  Quaker  Survey  2013,  the 
number of Friends and attenders professing belief in God has been 
decreasing (down from 74% in 1990 to 72% in 2003 and 57% in 
2013 — considerably lower than in the population as a whole) 
while the number identifying as fully declared atheists has been 
increasing (up from 3.4% in 1990 to 7% in 2003 and 14.5% in 
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2013).  There  is  also  a  large  undecided  contingent  which  has 
remained constant at around 25% over the same twenty-three year 
period. Overall, the trend appears to be moving towards a rejection 
of  belief  in  God  but  not  necessarily  towards  non-theism  as  a 
theologically fixed position since not all of those in the undecided 
group would accept the ‘non-theist’ label.2 However, there is no 
doubt that Heron’s fears have been amply vindicated. What we are 
looking at is a Religious Society in flux. 
In his Swarthmore lecture, Open for Transformation, Ben 
Pink  Dandelion  draws  attention  to  our  anxiety  about  falling 
numbers.3 That is a different concern and in his view perhaps a 
false one. “In dwelling on the end of Quakerism”, he says, “where 
is our faith?” He urges us not to worry — fear and anxiety are 
themselves symptoms of the secular. Faced with falling numbers 
“we can adapt our structures as we need to, and as we have done 
in  the past”.  All  very true  — but  who are  ‘we’? The end of 
Quakerism may be about more than falling numbers; it may also 
(despite appeals to an all-embracing but undefined ‘Quakerness’) 
be  about  our  increasingly  divergent  and  doubtfully  compatible 
identities. How is it possible to adapt our structures to halt, and 
hopefully  reverse,  the  decline  in  our  numbers  without  further 
widening the theological basis for membership? And what is the 
advantage in that if the net result is yet further to dilute our core 
beliefs and Quaker identity and make it all the easier for others to 
step in with a wholly different set of beliefs and values? 
I am not aware of any research into the reasons why people 
resign from the Society or the rate at which they are leaving; nor 
                                                 
2 According to the survey, the undecided contingent has remained constant at 
around 25% over the same 23 year period. This seems odd in view of the 
changes in the other figures but suggests other factors may be involved. The 
British Quaker Survey 2013 is available online.  
3 Membership of Britain Yearly meeting has been declining by an average 
of 167 people per annum over the past ten years. See Simon Best and 
Stuart Masters, The Friends Quarterly (August 2014), p.39. 
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of any comparison between the numbers and beliefs of those who 
have left and those newly admitted to membership. As numbers 
continue  to  fall,  it  seems  we  are  losing  more  members  and 
attenders than we are gaining. But again, what about the changing 
composition of the Society? It is possible that what we are seeing 
here is a process of positive feedback (what environmentalists call 
‘catastrophic bifurcation’) where the more secular we become the 
more secular we become. As Friends and attenders of Christian 
and/or  theist  conviction  die  off  or  quietly  withdraw  from  the 
Society, the proportion of those who do not share their convictions 
grows larger and this in turn attracts yet more people of similar 
outlook for whom our traditions can have no more than a passing 
historical interest. 
What all this means is that for many Friends today George 
Fox’s claim to have known God’s presence ‘experimentally’ was a 
mistake and the Society was founded on nothing more than a 
delusion. This is a view which categorically denies any possibility 
of encounter with the Real Presence of God whether as individuals 
or corporately in our meetings for worship. Further, it undermines 
‘gospel  order’,  the  decision-making  process  without  voting  by 
which our business affairs are conducted, and makes it less likely 
that any future ‘adaptations’ will be considered and introduced 
under guidance. Some Friends continue to speak of the Society as 
‘the great survivor’, but it is doubtful that any religious institution, 
however worthy, could survive such total abnegation of its basic 
and founding principles. If we go down this route we will most 
certainly, and probably very soon, be speaking about ‘the end of 
Quakerism’. 
Today  one  is  likely  to  be  accused  of  intolerance  and 
dogmatism for insisting on any principles at all as being central to 
our faith. “Variety”, we are assured, “is the spice of Quaker life.” 
At the risk of appearing intolerant and dogmatic I would question 
this. Some variety is undoubtedly good for Quaker life, but variety 
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